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December 17, 2008

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gerald

never assume that those old sony's cant hang with or surpass any other radios (including panasonic)or vice-versa. i know youve touted your rf-888 and i think someone on here said it takes a backseat to no radio, i think your test has proven that this not necessarily the case. i believe vintage sony quality is unsurpassed with panasonic being in the same realm as often those two duke it out here when i put them head to head. for instance, my little panny rf-1060(same model as the 1080) pegs the needle on on my designated dx benckmarks as well as my sony icf-5900 does. my little sony 5500 pegs the needle along with my panasonic rf-1115 which is power tuner. between the vintage sony and panasonic i cant say one always outperforms the other. i will say i think those two ruled the seventies with very few contenders.

stetsi

Be careful when judging sensitivity via tuning meters. I suspect the meters are as variable as petrol bowser gauges. Some meters may be a touch more "demanding" than others. At any rate, you'd want make an exhaustive aural test, with headphones, etc - checking for background noise, clarity of reception, interference - before making final a final judgement.

herculodge

Gerald,

I like "pegs the needle," a term I should have known.

yeah, my 888 has lowered a bit in esteem, but the 877 and 1130 have risen in esteem.

Stetsi: You make a good point, but the sound was much better on the those radios that scored close to 10 on the meter. It was significant.

ed

Listen to stetsi's point: There is no standardization for signal strength meters (except in expensive pro radios). I can adjust any radio's meter so it "pegs" on any signal you'd like. In fact the Kaito's are all known to "Over Read" on their bar meters; that is they show every signal much stronger than it really should be. So don't think one radio is "better" than another just because it displays a higher meter reading. That's like saying one LCD TV is better than another because it has been set brighter. Signal quality is still the gold standard.

herculodge

If the meter reads a full 10 but sounds bad or as bad as the 4, then, yes, that's an issue. But in this comparison, the meter readings corresponded to sound quality, diminished static, clarity, etc.

herculodge

But from a technical standpoint, it's good to know the tuning meters are not the gold standard, or even reliable.

Ed

Technically you don't ever want a meter to "pin."... you always want it to read a little less than 10 (or the maximum) so that you can see the signal's "peak" while you are tuning it in. That's where an RF Gain control can be useful: Back off the gain so you can tune in the peak, then boost the gain, but not so much boost, or you could cause overload... too much gain can show a great meter reading, but produce a lousy, distorted signal.

gerald

i suppose when i say "peg the needle" it not only signifies the actual meter reading, but the clarity and stability of the signal. i tune to ear not to visual. however if the meter reads 10 and i ve got the signal im looking for then i assume the meter works. there are times on some sets that my ear percieves a better signal at 8 on the meter than ten. so Ed and stetsi's comments are well taken.

herculodge

I'm glad I did my meter comparison/experiment today. I learned some things, about what to take and what not take from a meter reading. Thanks to all.

stetsi

Actually, outrageous as it may seem, I believe my Tecsun R-308 is a little more sensitive than my RF-888/GX300. In fact, the R-308 has a remarkable FM section for an otherwise cheap and nasty modern radio (The whip doesn't even swivel/rotate, low power amp, no proper tone control, AM is very mediocre; case, knobs and switches all horrible low quality soft plastic, etc... all of which made me happy to modify it with new speaker, etc).

Brian (Scooby214)

You stated in your entry that you may sell your weaker performers. Does this mean you may sell your 888? I can't imagine you selling that one. My 888 is not my very strongest with FM, but it still outshines most of my modern radios. Plus its sound quality is second to none for a battery operated radio. FM music is much more enjoyable (to me) on the 888 than on the S350DL.

I have the feeling that if you sell a radio like the 888, you'll later wish you still had it.

herculodge

I'd sell it if and when the value went up to over $350 or so. It's still a great DXer. But it's not as good on FM as my 1130 and 877.

I often regret selling radios. That's a good point. But would I regret selling it for $2,000? We've seen some radios sell for crazy prices lately.

Brian (Scooby214)

I agree that every radio has a price. You purchased it for a bit over $200, so $350 would seem to be a price that could make a radio worth selling.

I certainly wouldn't sell it for a break-even price. If you did later want another 888, you would be back to the gamble of hoping for an honest seller.

herculodge

I like the 888 but I don't like to struggle to pinpoint FM stations. I've got other vintages that take me to my FM stations a whole lot easier. But it is a powerhouse. I'll see how they sell on eBay.

Angelo

I was being rhetorical when I said that the 888 takes a back seat to no radio, or plays second fiddle to no radio (I don't even remember what I wrote.). I love my 888---it's a great AM signal finder for me, and believe it or not, I actually do use the PSB to listen in on dispatchers and police communications (Fairfax, VA). I'm sure there are other radios that top it. But for me, the mystique of it's time period, the aggressive styling and very capable performance make it a definite keeper for me. That one won't go on the block anytime soon. As for comparing Sony with Panasonic---it doesn't surprise me at all that the Sony radio has an edge. I just love Panasonic styling of the 70's. I'll be doing my own comparison soon: Panasonic RF3000 vs. Sony Earth Orbiter 5090. Both are new aquisitions for me.

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