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Responding to Gary's remark that he heard a Leaf's replacement battery is $1,600o as we discussed the viability of alternative energy cars, David writes:
Here's some info on battery replacement for the Nissan Leaf:
Posted at 06:51 PM in Car Fury | Permalink
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I'd love to see Nissan put this in writing, definitively, instead of the probablies, maybes, ifs and buts. "Hundreds" might be $200.00 or $900.00. "Probably" not needing to replace the entire battery pack doesn't mean squat----somehow, someway, dealers find the MOST expensive option, not the least expensive. That's the real world. Nissan's spokesman didn't offer much comfort here, at least not in my opinion after living in the real car world. Like Don Meredith once said to Howard Cosell: "If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, oh what a party we'd have."
April 20, 2012 at 04:27 AM
Oh, and the story was from "Auto Blog Green?" Yeah. I'm sure the editors, contributors and readers there are willing this to be less expensive than it really is. Lipstick on a pig.
April 20, 2012 at 04:31 AM
Jeff - Actually, I had heard $16000, not $1600. This Wikipedia article says, "Each battery pack costs Nissan an estimated US$18,000 (as of May 2010)." Of course, this was two years ago.
I don't think anybody knows the real-world longevity of Li-ion battery technology in automotive applications, nor do we know if only some, or all, of the battery "modules" will need to be replaced at some point during the service life of a Leaf.
April 20, 2012 at 09:42 AM
Corrected. Thanks, Gary.
April 20, 2012 at 09:56 AM
Yes, I caught that too. New battery pack for a hybrid or electric for $1600.00 would actually be reasonable. I've heard that depending on the car, a new set of batteries ranges from $7000.00 up to what Gary wrote here, $16,000. If the pack goes bad at the seven or eight year mark----often, the car is very servicable. I take good care of my cars---at that point in time, the exterior will look very nice, as will the interior. I keep up with all scheduled maintenance. But a battery replacement would likely cost more than the book value of the car. This is another reason to pause long and hard before jumping on the electric bandwagon. They're not ready for prime time.
April 20, 2012 at 11:09 AM
You want sticker shock?
April 20, 2012 at 12:59 PM
The good news for the Leaf owner -- but maybe not for Nissan -- is the decent battery warranty period (from the Wikipedia article noted above):
"The Leaf's battery is guaranteed by Nissan for eight years or 100,000 miles (160,000 km)."
April 20, 2012 at 01:16 PM
As one that is into building and modding high power flashlights, (think top-fuel dragster!) I use many 18650 li-ion batteries and you really have to take care of them; that's why single 18650's are not something you're gonna find in Walmart.
If over discharged, you can end up with a pipe bomb in your hand instead of a flashlight. Automotive use? Fugedda'bouit!
April 20, 2012 at 02:15 PM
Most cars don't need THAT type of expensive maintenance at 100K. Not thousands and thousands of dollars worth.
March 08, 2013 at 03:48 AM
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