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July 09, 2013

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jonnybardo

Ha ha, sorry for the novel there. You might want to note that I wrote it, and not you - otherwise people might mistake you for a windbag.

herculodge

Sorry, Jonny, for forgetting to attribute your authorship. Great conversation between you and Ulysses. Attribute now corrected.

Paul

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Angelo

I agree with most of that, Jonny---people know I wear a lot of different watches, including some relatively expensive ones, like a Movado I have----and in fact, if we stand back from this blog (and other watch enthusiasts blogs), it's interesting to note that for most people, one hundred dollars is considered outrageous to spend on a watch. I have a sister-in-law who is certainly not poor----travels to Europe frequently, goes on Alaskan and other expensive cruises, has a nice home, etc.----and gets her watches from Target, from a table----not even out of the display case. Probably spends less than twenty bucks. Wears the watch until the battery quits and gets a new watch. There are many others like her----and if they spend $50.00 on a watch, it's a splurge. So when I wear a big Tauchmeister and it's spotted as unique and expensive looking----I might say "It was under $150.00 and they think that's an outrageous purchase----while people like you, Jeff and Ulysses would think it was the low side of what you would buy----that 200 or 300 is a more reasonable amount to spend. It's all relative. And back to the main point----people I know, co-workers, friends, business contacts, etc.----look at my wrist when they see me, wondering what I have on that day. It could be the $500.00 Movado that I wore to a wedding last weekend. Or, it could be a '70s era Timex that I bought on E-Bay for around $20.00----a funky looking thing with a spherical crystal and wide chrome bezel----funky to say the least. It could be the Womage BMW knock-off that's a cheap E-Bay import or it could be one of my Tauchmeister/Aeromatic favorites. It's nice to have a deep bench, even if some of the watches are worn very infrequently. The best part? Well, I met a very attractive woman who works at the mall kiosk where you can get new watch batteries installed. I don't know much about her yet----she's very young and for all I know, has a boyfriend (or girlfriend, who knows?). We had a great conversation yesterday----and I told her I'd be back today in need of another battery (I think I have an old Timex Indiglo with a dead battery that I can take in). She told me the days that she works. With all of these watches, I almost always have one that needs a battery----plenty of excuses to go to that mall to talk to her! And how can you not like a sexy girl who can have your watch apart in seconds and knows how to keep the water-tight gasket in place when she reassembles it? She can probably even get me discounts on new crystals or repairs!

jonnybardo

Let's not get ahead of ourselves Angelo. Take it slow and don't act too eager. Ha ha.

Anyhow, yeah, its all relative. For years I would spend maybe $30-50 on a watch. Then, only a little over two years ago, my watch obsession started. At first I didn't want to break the $100 barrier. I started looking at Invictas and Pulsars in the under $100 range. Then I broke the $100 barrier and my price limit was around $150. And then, early last summer, I broke the $200 barrier, then $300 in the fall. This winter I went way beyond that and spent almost $500 on the Sumo and $700 on my Orient Saturation Diver. At that point I thought I'd never spend less than $300-400 on a watch again.

I realized I was in trouble so backed off, going on a spending fast for a few months, selling some watches off. But more importantly, I re-calibrated my tastes and price point. I'm again looking at $300 as a cap, albeit a soft one that I would surpass in the right situation. But there are plenty of great watches in the $150-300 range.

This isn't to deny the tiers in quality, but that the quality of a watch isn't the only factor in my enjoyment. I kind of lost sight of that for a bit and, it would seem, most folks at a place like Watchlords have completely lost sight of this.

It is simple logic that the person who can enjoy the whole spectrum is better off than the person who only enjoys the upper ends. This is akin to what we could call the "escalating pleasure principle" that often afflicts the wealthy.

I'll be honest, though. If I were a multi-millionaire I probably wouldn't buy many $200 watches. Maybe one or two with a unique style. But my "low-end" would probably be micro-brand divers in the $800-1200 range, and I'd be spending thousands on Oris, Omega, high-end Seiko, Breitling, etc. Beyond about 5K I think the differences become so small and chimeric that I probably wouldn't bother, but there's no denying the difference in craftsmanship between an Omega Seamaster and just about any watch under a grand. The problem, though, with your typical "watch snob" is that that's all they see.

Angelo

Jonny: She wasn't nearly as friendly today. Maybe the Aeromatic I brought in yesterday impressed her----but the Indiglo I brought in today made me look like a clown. I don't know. There's always next time.

Ulysses

Without wanting to sound too sexist, I think most women aren't really as fussed about watches as guys are, and the public in general (of either gender) wouldn't be able to tell an expensive watch from a cheap one. Best to pick something that you like wearing for yourself and accept that few others out there will recognise your sense of taste. Maybe it's because i'm European and many of these big US fashion brands have little to no presence in retail here that I am not convinced of their value. I'm seeing plenty of Invicta watches on the UK Amazon site now though, so it's changing.

That feeling you get in the hand of holding a "proper" watch is something that cannot easily be replicated by the stack'em high, sell'em low companies. I'm hoping that level of quality will filter down so that more of us can enjoy it.

jonnybardo

This is well said, Ulysses. I didn't truly understand this feeling until I started "buying up." Even about a year ago when I checked out one of my student's Omega (which the spoiled brat thrashed and didn't take care of) I didn't get it. But since buying my Orients I have a better sense of "that feeling."

I think the sweetspot range is $500-1500 because you can start getting what are high quality, but relatively affordable, watches - like my Orient Saturation Diver which retails for %1500-2000. But I think if you look at Oris or Omega you find very fine watches that you could spend about a grand on for a used one.

Angelo, maybe she senses your hopefulness ;)

jonnybardo

But to address one of your other points, Ulysses, as much as I learned to love "that feeling," the higher end companies just don't make watches with the industrial science fiction vibe of an Invicta Capsule that are just plain fun.

jonnybardo

Looks like one of my comments to Ulysses and Angelo disappeared.

Angelo

Jonny: Either she sensed my hopefulness----or she decided that a 20-25 year age difference is too much for her!

Ulysses

You can find the crazy space-age designs on some VERY high-priced Swiss watches but their pricing is totally delusional for what you're getting so best avoided, in which case the cheaper option is obviously preferable.

jonnybardo

Hublot is another example of "crazy space age designs," but the price...

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