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October 27, 2016

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Gary

Another Kinetic? How long till it's up for sale?

herculodge

You could be right, Gary, but I've read people getting 10 years of battery life and this watch has sapphire. I wanted a rubber strap sport watch with sapphire and I love the look. The all steel version fit my wrist in a way that the crown dug a hole in my lower hand. With daily wear at home, I should be able to keep this going. My more refined Sumo, my current default watch for the home, will be saved for other occasions. But we shall see. I wish Seiko made a solar watch with sapphire that like, but nothing is as appealing as the SUN023.

Gary

You can always try a toothbrush induction charger if charging becomes a chore. There is a big thread about this on the Watchuseek Seiko & Citizen forum.

herculodge

Good idea. I looked into it before without confidence, but I'd like to try that again.

Lee_K

The over/under has the SUN023 sold by Valentine's Day. :)

Angelo

Sometimes I think less is more and sell off a few watches. Then a month later, I buy more than I sold. Of course, I'm playing in a league where watches are in the low hundreds or less, not the high hundreds or a grand. By the way----don't look now, but Chinese Sea-Gull is making rapid strides in quality and desirability. We've seen it in cameras and cars----American/European challenged by the Japanese and laughing it off at first, then trying to play catch up. With watches, we saw Japan successfully challenge the Swiss and take a nice chunk of business, with some collectors actually preferring the Japanese movements at this point. Sea-Gull has slowly and steadily improved and refined to the point of making some really nice movements at a value price, absolutely challenging Miyota. Like Hyundai/KIA of Korea arrived late but are no longer a joke----I see that same thing unfolding for Sea-Gull in the coming years.

herculodge

I have to assume Chinese quartz is as good as it gets. Luxury watches are already built in China. They have the exact machinery used for Swiss watches. It shouldn't surprise me that Sea-Gulls are getting close. Next quest is cars made in China.

Angelo

Sea-Gull automatics are gaining quickly too. I don't know enough about the inner workings of mechanical/mainspring/automatic watches, but the layman view is that the Sea-Gull movements LOOK more robust----seems like more layers of metal around the rotor, more weight, for whatever that is worth. I have a Stuhrling Tourbillon built by Sea-Gull and it's a very accurate watch----very precise and intricate build. At the very least, they are showing that they have a grasp on watchmaking and definitely have the million dollar equipment to manufacture it.

Angelo

On cars----Buicks built in China for the Chinese market were actually better than American made Buicks, as recently as 2006. The auto scribe was amazed at the quality of the Chinese Buicks, with fit and finish as good as Lexus, well ahead of the American General Motors cars of that vintage. I think we've closed the gap----but the fact that we had to close the gap with Buicks made in China is ridiculous. Apparently, the new Volvos being made there are coming out of the factory with fewer quality issues than Volvos made in Sweden. Indeed, they are catching up or have caught up.

herculodge

Shouldn't surprise me since the machinery is the same.

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