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February 23, 2010

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Tom Welch

My attitude towards Toyota is to hell with them. For several years I've reading about the decline in Toyota quality and now we have these software related glitches.

The truth of the matter is when software is implemented in auto design it is next to impossible to test for all driving contingencies and it will many many years before the bugs are fully worked out 100 percent.

All the software projects I've managed in the past seemed to take on a life of their own after implementation.

Angelo

Tom: You are on target with that observation. I'll add that the mighty have really fallen with how poorly Toyota has been handling this. It's almost unbelievable to me how poorly they have dealt with this crisis----maybe the same people are advising them and Tiger Woods??? They went from "beyond reproach" to almost being a pariah, practically overnight. It's truly remarkable. My company car is a Prius that I got new in 2008 (2008 model). I haven't experienced unintended acceleration or brake issues---but I will tell you, the car stickered for nearly $27,000 and they wouldn't budge a nickle on the price----we paid dearly for it. It's adequate, but no more. It's had several minor problems (things like a cigarette lighter/power outlet that stopped working, front lower airdamn came loose---nothing major, but little quality glitches). Previously, if you believed Consumer Reports, they were as close to perfect as a car could be. Now? No way, nowhere near that. If I was shopping for a new car, I'd be looking long and hard at the cars Ford is now selling. I love my 2004 Saab too----I'd consider another one. We bought that car new and it's going on 6 years old with no problems. Toyota loyalists are supporting the brand---but I hear the Lexus buyers affected by this nonsense are beside themselves.

dorpmuller

Computers don't belong in cars-period. Electronic throttle with no mechanical connection? No thanks!!

Angelo

Dorpmuller: My newer cars, with the computer's "parasitic drain" have dead batteries after sitting unused for a few weeks. My 1979 Chevy Monza can go months between uses---and starts right up. The Monza has a lot of space (particularly with the back seat folded down---ends up hauling like a station wagon). It's fun to drive too. My current Monza is a V8 and I haven't measured fuel economy yet. But my previous Monza was a V6 with plenty of power and 30MPG on the highway. That car was also involved in a couple snow related collisions and I walked way just fine. I'm scratching my head trying to understand all of the "progress" we've made with cars in the last 30 years. For that matter, I had a 1991 Buick Park Avenue with the 3800 V-6 Lots of space, smooth, quiet ride, plenty of power, safe and got 27MPG highway---again, seems like we haven't done much of anything since then, except slick marketing.

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