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March 27, 2014

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Angelo

Okay, I'll start: In the looks department, CC2E: Unimaginitive box. Looks like a good many other radios on the scene. Plenty of plastic. L.C.D. screen----I hope they got it right this time and no premature failures. RF-2200: Looks like it was part of the instrumentation of a jet. Nice quality cabinet, great contrast, nice use of metal on bezels and trim.

Angelo

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Aircastle-162F1H-Radio-Solid-State-Eight-Band-19-Transistor-SW-MB-FM-/131151494606?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

An old friend. I have the Allied version----the same radio with a different badge. It's solid and a very decent performer. Love the styling too.

StarHalo

Angelo, pretty sure everyone here has seen pictures of both, I'm talking about comparing reception and sound quality. And keep in mind that even if the Panny has an edge, you're still going to have to negotiate a ~$400 deal on EBay which may not happen for some time, whereas you can comparison shop for the CCrane and have it on your doorstep by the end of the week.

Other news: Don't forget Earth Hour saturday night, your one-hour practice power outage and opportunity for your radio to be the news and/or entertainment star of the evening..

Don

The RF 2200 has analog tuning that my tired old eyes had trouble reading,even with glasses. the2e has bright green digital readings that are no problem.The only faults with the 2e,in my view are:No toggle switch to change from "Time" to "Frequency" and the way the 2 meter memory scan is set up.After about 10 seconds after finding an active channel,the display goes back to clock time and(at least on mine,before i sent it back,)the scan would not start once the channel had no traffic or carrier on it.Don

Angelo

Star Halo: I know----but I could only review looks since I don't have either radio! But to the extent that looks matter (many people think the cosmetics of a radio are important) the 2200 wins hands down.

Drive-In-Freak

Now that's a showdown I've been waiting for. Let's see how it holds up to the big boys.
Analog vs digital tuning, ergonomics, and looks aside to me it's the performance that counts. How low is the noise floor? How sensitive and selective is it? Does it overload around a strong signal? How does it sound?
There's a good reason why some radios are used as benchmarks..why those particular models are used as a yardstick to compare everything else. Their reputations are well earned.

Stephen

I too would like to see a performance comparison between the RF-2200 and other radios, like the recent C-Crane models, the Sangean PR-D5/D15, GE Superradios, Sony ICF-2010, Tecsun PL-398BT, and/or other similar radios. I've heard the 2200 has the reputation of excellent sensitivity and selectivity soundly crushing that of many other similar radios, so I'm willing to admit I have very high expectations of it.

For example, on sensitivity, I'd expect a station that's completely undetectable (even by beating the carrier with an external RF generator) on a properly-aligned GE Superradio III to be completely noise-free on the RF-2200, like the S/N ratio of the studio master recording from which a Blu-Ray movie is created. On selectivity, I'd expect its skirt selectivity and overload rejection to be such that it splatter-free cleanly hears a faint station with full AMAX/NRSC audio that's just 10 kHz from a strong signal that blankets the entire LW-MW-SW range on the PL-398BT. :)

Or are my expectations of the RF-2200 a bit high? How much of an improvement would I expect over the PL-398BT in selectivity or the GE SR3 in sensitivity if I was to seek out a RF-2200? To me, a subtle improvement, for example, means going from no carrier to somewhat noisy but fully intelligible audio (maybe 15 dB). A semi-moderate improvement takes that no-carrier signal to clean enough that most consumer radios would stop a scan at that S/N (maybe 40 dB), and a fairly significant improvement is no-carrier to perfectly-clear reception (maybe 90 dB).

Drive-In-Freak

The SR3s are so variable that I can't really say. As far as the SR2 and the first one goes? Honestly, it's close, but only in the right surroundings.
In a park away from any power lines or anything else that makes r.f.i. in the daytime the SR2 pulls in WWL 870 out of New Orleans (I'm in central Florida) faintly, and barely readable, but readable just the same. On the RF-2200 it's readable. It's not like a local..not loud and clear, but very readable.
If the RF2200 is a 10/10 I'd give the GE SR 9/10. The CC+? Awful sound aside 8/10 (though if close to a strong signal it's practically useless). ICF2010 9/10..I'd say very comparable to a SR is not just very very slightly below.
The RF2200 is not a miracle radio, but it's slightly better than a Superadio. If I could have just one for MW/AM DX it would be it.
PL-398? No contest. Not even close.

Now keep in mind environment is everything. An average location with a bunch of r.f.i. levels the playing field and quickly.

That being said an old Realistic DX-400 with an outbord loop such as the Select-A-Tenna or one of those newer Grudig/Kaito AN100 or AN200 is hard to beat. In fact I'd put that combination up against anything at all.

Mike

CC2E beats everything I have on weak signal AM DX INCLUDING the GE SupeRadios. Easy to use, you know exactly the frequency you're tuned to. Weather band with storm warning "ALERT" feature a big plus, especially for those in high risk violent storm areas. Excellent audio. Good on FM too. If you need a WEAK SIGNAL radio - THIS IS A GREAT CHOICE.

Wayne King

I have a C Crane CCRADIO 2E. Regrettably I cannot compare it to a Panasonic RF 2200 because I have never used one. I wish Jay Allen would do a side-by-side video comparison of the two. The problem with the RF 2200 is that it has been out of production for decades and it would be a challenge to find one in peak operating condition. It was an impressive radio in it's day and I suspect if properly restored, it will rival anything that's being made today. By my estimation, the 2E is a very good performing set on both AM and FM. The audio is warm and full, completely unlike its predecessors up to and including the CCRADIO 2. It is the most sensitive radio I have ever used, and I conducted my observations during daylight hours on very distant weak signals. It has an odd noise reduction feature, which I'm only now getting accustomed to. If the set is in a high RFI environment, the reception simply decreases in volume to compensate for it. I would much rather that noise reduction feature either be eliminated or switchable so that the user has the option of turning it on or off. In general though, it does not diminish the reception capabilities. I have yet to use it in a completely RFI environment, but I am expecting that when I do I will be even more amazed! It seems that the lower the RFI, the better this thing works. It has an extremely aggressive AGC circuit, which I did not like at first. However, I discovered that reception is better on the set during severe electrical storms than on sets that have less aggressive AGC circuits. It's selectivity is quite good. If you are within a couple miles of a transmitter, it's signal will splash about 10 kHz above and below its intended frequency. But, the set has excellent nulling properties. An example would be that here in Palm Coast Florida on 1550 kHz we have a local station WNZF. I can tune up to 1560 kHz and pull WAGL in Lancaster South Carolina. While there is splash from 1550, I can still copy 1560 quite easily. I can copy it even better if I turn up to 1561 or 1562, Incidentally, I can accomplish this same feet using a CCRADIO EP! I would say that the EP possesses about 90% of the sensitivity that the 2E does. Although the 2E is not the most sensitive FM receiver I have seen, it's very close and is absolutely the most selective I have ever used! It will yank the weakest stations directly adjacent to locals! To sum it up, in my estimation the 2E is as good as it gets in terms of a high-performance portable tabletop radio. I want to make one last comment regarding the complaint about the clock display. While it would have been preferable for the designers to have included a switchable display so that it would show either the clock or frequency, the decision to show the clock is a good one because time is always in a state of flux, whereas the frequency is not. If you cannot remember what frequency you are on, press the "FREQ" button. For the money, the 2E is a bargain! The EP is also a very good bargain, but I would not recommend it to anyone living in an area that has transmitters within 5 or so miles because it overloads very easily. Also, to get the most out of the EP, one must skillfully use its twin coil fine-tuning control. Both radios have very rich and pleasing audio rivaling that of the Redsun RP 2100 known for its wonderful full warm sound!

Wayne King

I almost forgot! I want to mention something that is very important to those of you who are considering purchasing the CCRADIO 2E. deep within its instruction manual Are directions on how to optimally align the radio for best performance. This process only works for the 2E. While the radio is powered on and in the a.m. my, press and hold the FREQ button until a beep is heard and the weather alert lamp on the top left of the radio glows red. Then press the FREQ button once again. Another beep will be heard and the weather alert lamp will blink. The radio is now aligning it's self for optimum performance on the AM band. The LCD will display 1710, 1600, 1500, 1400, etc. until it reaches 520. When the process is complete, the weather alert light will go dark. Then reset the radio via it's reset button located on its bottom side. I use a ball point pen to press the button. Now the set is performing at its absolute best!

One more thing I would like to mention is that in earlier models of the CCRADIOS, there were problems with failing LCDs. This problem was due to components being glued rather than soldered into place. As the glue aged or was subjected to heat, it separated causing the failure. C Crane has addressed and corrected these issues.

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