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May 21, 2015

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Charlie

So, think I may have heard the "finished collection" story from other folks on the forums....my guess (and Including myself in this) is that Ninja Master WIS are sort of like the Jedi Knights in the Star Wars story where they are tempted by the Dark Side, and will eventually succumb to other new shiny black (silver, gold, blue, etc.) objects.....but as long as you keep the collection leveled out at a "quartet", you should be in good shape, right ? ......in any case, I'm trying to figure out how Seiko thinks a PVD coated shrouded diver with a 4R36 movement 2mm larger diameter than the SRP637 is worth $250 more.....am I missing something ?

herculodge

The upgraded movement is such that the 655 will probably sell for about 450 or 500, closer to 150 more than the 637. If it's 500, I'm a buyer.

Charlie

If that ends up being the difference, it would make it a bit more understandable......and it IS very cool looking in the black, if you have the wrist size for a 50mm case.

Angelo

A couple points: 1) We know you're being toungue-in-cheek about "completing" anything as it relates to your watches. You'll buy the new Seiko and "complete" your collection and become a Ninja master for about six weeks, at which point Citizen will inevitably come out with a new Pro Master that knocks your socks off. I'm not buying what you're selling regarding a quartet or even seven watches "rounding out" a collection and giving you zen. To me, anxiety is having an artificial number----an arbitrary "limit" to how many watches I can own, forcing me to sell watches I like before I can buy a new watch---or after I buy a new watch. This flies in the face of "collecting." (and it's caused you to repurchase watches you have sold). Granted, I do have some concern over having too many watches (I probably have around 50 at this stage) but if I was told that I have to get down to 10 of them and then stay at 10...or 12...or 15...or even 20----THAT would be a big cause of anxiety for me. Is there ANY number I should limit myself to? No, I don't think so. I believe if I limited myself to 50 watches, I'd have to sell a few right now, which I could do without any real drama. Then what? If I want to buy a new one, I have to sell an existing one? Okay, that would be fine----until I reached a point where I loved all of them, THEN the anxiety would kick in again. I don't mind owning a few that I don't love. Chances are, they aren't worth much and they aren't taking up much space----and might fill a niche here and there, worn occasionally, earning their keep. Another point: 2) Yes, you and I have discussed privately your evolution away from Invicta "Vegas" pieces. Funny that I wasn't into Invicta---bought a couple of them and sat on those for a year or two before starting to buy more just as you moved away from the bling. That said: The "fire of Invicta" has absolutely influenced others. You talk about Seiko bringing out a new 50MM watch. It wasn't long ago, on forums, that fans of Seiko ridiculed Invicta for having 50MM watches. "Pancakes" "Coasters" "Wheel rims" etc. were used to attack Invicta for creating oversized watches, and 50MM seemed to be the example of "outrageous and too large." I should go back and look to see if any of the same commentators on these forums are reconsidering that now.

Ulysses

I must be close to being a ninja. Haven't bought a new watch in about five years. I do love them and drool over them, but as I age my bullshit-meter becomes more honed, or maybe I am just more certain about what I want from a watch and am less willing to compromise. I have quite a cynical outlook on the watch industry, especially the Swiss watch industry.

It used to be that that I would see new watches regularly that I desperately wanted, and I would make myself more and more excited and anxious about a prospective purchase; this latest piece was the watch to end all watches, it was perfect and I absolutely had to have it. Sadly, these watches were usually hard to obtain, due to price or location (a lot of funky Japanese-only models). Eventually, after my self-made hype died down, I came to realise that I didn't really need these watches - other things would always take priority, and besides, there'd always be another model coming out that would be closer to perfection that I knew I would want more.

If I had more disposable income I might feel like indulging in a nicer watch from time to time, but indulging myself wasn't how my father raised me or how I later raised myself. There's an incredible sense of liberation one can get from stepping off the treadmill and realising that in the grand scheme of things, none of it really matters. There's a balance you need to strike between the enjoyment you derive from a hobby versus the stress it causes. If it veers too far into stressful territory, you might want to start looking for another hobby.

herculodge

I was getting way too stressed out, and I still can if I'm not careful. I love having a small collection. I'd like to keep it in single digits.

Angelo

Ulysses raises interesting points (again) but I think all of this transcends the watch industry. The BS meter should also be turned on for almost ANYTHING we purchase----cars, furniture, appliances----all of those consumer categories are as guilty as the watch industry of BS---of making you think you can't get along with what you have----that you need to "upgrade" as soon as possible, even if you have to go into debt to do it. And it hardly stops there. Real Estate agents are hawking houses to people----upselling them into crushing debt/mortgages, more house than they really need, "neighborhood" with amenities they can't possibly live without, etc. And look at higher education---the cost of a university education has become laughable. I have a 10 year old son and I want him to go to college----and I know it's going to cost me a massive fortune----and I see how the colleges try to sell themselves to high school students----the biggest and best of everything and "a reputation for excellence" and only a couple hundred thousand dollars for that 4 year degree. What a joke that is.

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